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Darkest Fullalla · Jul 12, 2009, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Im playing an axe warrior and I only have access to skills from prophecies and EoTN. This build is for PvE and I was wondering if you guys can give me some suggestions on better skills to replace others or give me suggestions on a new build if you guys think this build is crap. I was also wondering how important stances are as I dont have access to flail, the next best thing would be frenzy. Do I really need a stance? Well heres my build:

"I am the Strongest!"
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Body Blow
Swift chop
Frenzy
Rush
Swift Chop

Show Some Skin · Jul 12, 2009, 08:18 AM // 08:18

I would go with Warrior's Endurance as an elite (im pretty sure its still a stance in pve) that way you can have Elite+Frenzy=more energy

-but kick Rush for it

eGaming · Jul 12, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43

It's still a skill in PvE* and yeah, makes things a lot easier.

Daisuko · Jul 12, 2009, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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"I am the strongest"
Eviscrerate
Executioner's Strike
Body Blow
Swift chop
Frenzy
Rush
Swift Chop

did I read that right? TWO swift chops? how did you manage that?

Darkest Fullalla · Jul 12, 2009, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Daisuko

...

"I am the strongest"
Eviscrerate
Executioner's Strike
Body Blow
Swift chop
Frenzy
Rush
Penetrating Blow

did I read that right? TWO swift chops? how did you manage that?

lol whoops. suppose to be Penetrating blow. So my build is alright then? Thanks for the reply pepz

subarucar · Jul 12, 2009, 10:16 AM // 10:16

You probably dont need 5 attacks, I would say 4 max.
Try something like:
Warriors Endurance
Frenzy
Rush
Dismember
Power Attack
Cyclone Axe
I Am The Strongest/Asura Scan
Attack skill of choice (Protectors Strike, Body Blow, Wild Blow, Swift Chop are all good here) Or you could take a res.

If you wanted to keep Eviscerate as your elite, try something more like:
Eviscerate
Executioners Strike
Body Blow/Dismember
Frenzy
Rush
I Am The Strongest/Asura Scan
Cyclone Axe
Res Sig/Interupt

You could also throw a conjure spell into those builds and use the respective weapon.
Asura Scan is for use on a foe before you unleash a chain of attack skills.

Nihilim Dhiamara · Jul 12, 2009, 02:38 PM // 14:38

the build i prefer is,
asura scan, warriors endurance, power attack, dismemeber, protectors strike, cyclone axe and drunken master or a res signet if i use rock candy

Winterclaw · Jul 12, 2009, 03:58 PM // 15:58

5 attacks is too many IMO, 4 is plenty.

Evi is good in pvp because of bar compression, but in PvE you can get away with using other skills. So drop swift chop and I don't really see the need to run WE with that build so long as you can manage your energy. You can keep using Evi, or drop it for cleave or triple chop.

TheodenKing · Jul 12, 2009, 04:17 PM // 16:17

So no defense, no kd, no heals?

Me thinks you need more than damage and conditions to be useful.

Helix Dreadlock · Jul 12, 2009, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Rush makes for a great cancel of Frenzy, and a nice IMS for Hard Mode, when they like to Kite. If I were you, use a conjure or a vampiric axe haft, since you have a 33% IAS most of the time, you get more damage and a small heal, for longer tanking.

Lux Aeterna · Jul 12, 2009, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Eviscerate
Body blow
Disrupting chop
Brawling Headbutt
For Great Justice
Frenzy
Rush

Winterclaw · Jul 12, 2009, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

So no defense, no kd, no heals?

And I think you should not encourage wammo mentality. He's running an axe so he's limited by KDs. Defense and healing are best left to prot/hybrid monks and don't belong on a warrior's bar. There's SY, but that's best left for DS warriors and paragons. If he were pugging, then he should bring a res sig, but that's about it.

The majority of his build is fine, not every PC can or should do everything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock

a vampiric axe haft, since you have a 33% IAS most of the time, you get more damage and a small heal, for longer tanking.

The healing you get from a vampiric mod is negligible. You really want to bring it for the more damage you talked about.

Bobby2 · Jul 12, 2009, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

There's SY, but that's best left for DS warriors and paragons

Nah. SY! would be an awesome addition to his build, it's just that he can't take it (no Factions!)

Darkest Fullalla · Jul 12, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Alright thanks for the help everyone, I have 1 question though about the conjure spells. Will it matter which element I use? Are there gonna be mosters in the game that I will encounter that will be resistant to some of the elements making my conjure of choice not work so well?

Lux Aeterna · Jul 12, 2009, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by Darkest Fullalla

Alright thanks for the help everyone, I have 1 question though about the conjure spells. Will it matter which element I use? Are there gonna be mosters in the game that I will encounter that will be resistant to some of the elements making my conjure of choice not work so well?

No and yes. Conjures aren't so great especially in pve, because they don't really add a huge amount of damage and will often be stripped -- there are other good damage buffs, notably strength of honor on a monk hero and various pve skills like great dwarf weapon that will do the same thing but much better.

Unless your party is specifically set up to provide a boost to several physicals, you're often best leaving damage to the searing flames eles and focusing rather on disruption + support and shutdown, via knockdowns (earthshaker and brawling headbutt) and armor boosting shouts like SY or Watch Yourself (which helps quite a bit with 9 or so tactics).

Darkest Fullalla · Jul 23, 2009, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Hmm, I was looking over some warrior skills for axe mastery and I was wondering how keen chop would work as a replacement for 1 of the other 3(excluding the elite attack) attacks? Would it be more effective in doing more damage then lets say B.Blow or Exec.Strike? Is this skill even worth keeping? It has low Adrenaline rating and is always a crit. hit.

_Nihilist_ · Jul 23, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23

For Keen Chop, not really.

Reason being, a critical hit is still armor-sensitive damage, while, say, Body Blow has a chance to critical (just like any attack) but also deals bonus damage which is armor-ignoring. Not only that, but since Keen Chop is going to be available so often, you'll disrupt your Adrenaline gain by spamming it - every time you use an Adrenaline skill, all of your other Adrenaline skills lose 1A.

However, looking at the original build you posted, you don't need both Body Blow and Executioner's Strike on the same bar. They do almost the same exact thing, with the exception that Body Blow costs only 7A vs. Exec Strike's 8A, and Body Blow inflicts a Deep Wound if your target is suffering from Cracked Armor.

Banon · Jul 29, 2009, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Defy Pain works great in any adrenaline build for warrior

just keep taht in mind because it will help you tank out much more damage and can be constantly kept up for extra armor and damage reduction

Yichi · Jul 29, 2009, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by Banon

Defy Pain works great in any adrenaline build for warrior

just keep taht in mind because it will help you tank out much more damage and can be constantly kept up for extra armor and damage reduction

Do we really need another thread that turns into a "Why Tanking Sucks" thread? Seriously, this is the WRONG advice to be giving...

Winterclaw · Jul 29, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Bobby, SY would probably work on his build if he had factions, but I'd feel more comfortable if he also had FGJ or cyclone axe... something to give him a little extra boost of ade so he can keep it up.

Yichi, Banon is new and doesn't know what he's talking about.

Banon, save for a few farming builds, tanking sucks. If you'd like to continue the discussion on tanking, please find an active thread that discusses it or start a new thread if you can't.